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George

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:19 pm 
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According to an article published in Med Hypotheses (2004;62(1):133-42) cow milk seems to be a risk for the develoment of prostate cancer:
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Studies to elucidate the cause of prostate cancer have met with little success to date. Epidemiological studies suggested that milk consumption is probably as one of the risk factors for prostate cancer. The studies thus focused on the fat and calcium in milk, but reached no definitive conclusion. According to the measurements of estrogen levels in milk by different studies, it was suggested that estrogen in milk was a possible risk to cause prostate cancer. One reason supporting this hypothesis is that Western diet (characterized by milk/dairy products and meat) causes a trend of increasing levels of estrogens, and Western males show a higher incidence rate of prostate cancer than Asia males. Estrogen levels in prostate fluid are also correlated very well with the prostate cancer. During several decades, estrogens, together with testosterone, was commonly used to induce the rodent model of prostate cancer. Our hypothesis also was supported by the presence of estrogen receptors in the prostate gland and the genotoxic role of estrogens on the prostate gland, as possible mechanisms. Therefore, if modern milk consumption does expose consumers to high levels of estrogen and plays an adverse role in prostate cancer, action should be taken to produce the noncontaminant milk.

Amanda S

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:27 pm 
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I personally feel that that article is totally misinforming. I don't think that drinking milk, and eating meat is going to cause prostate cancer, because for milleinia, hunters and gatherers ate meat, and they didn't die of prostate cancer. If they did, there wouldn't be a human race. And, for the last few thousand years, agricultural peoples have subsisted on natural milk products, and thrived. If you want to know about a culture existing almost entirely on meat and dairy, don't look to the West, look to the East. In Africa, the Masai eat milk in all forms, soured, clabbered, and even fresh, and they eat meat, and blood, with only a small fraction of their calories from plant sources. And if you watch the Discovery Channel, you see these beautiful people, and they are incredibly healthy. Yes, modern milk products can cause dieases, but the emphasis is on MODERN. Natural, unprocessed milk is the only substance in the entire world that is designed as a food. Everything else is a living organism trying to survive in this world, from grass and broccoli, bugs, and cows, and whales. Therefore, everything you need to build your body is there, all of your amino acids, and fats, and carbohydrates. No you should drink milk and just milk, and nothing else, but it is very healthy, and tastes great! Everything made in this modern world is so overly processed, and flouridated, and heat processed to degrees of up to 400, and done so many times, it's a wonder that modern humanity is still alive. And sadly, the same goes for soya foods. Modern processing techniques don't take into account ancient wisdom. In order for soya food to be safe, it has to be brewed and fermented for up to two years!! There are lots of anti-nutrients that are in soy, from trysipin inhibitors, isoflavones, goitrogens, flouride (from flouridated water) that modern processing doesn't deactitvate these substances. But beaurcrats insist on taking the cheapest route possible, jepordizing the health of our nation. We have to do things properly, for the health of our nation, because we are slowly sickening and dying because of these politicians who are in charge of our food, and not knowledgeable farmers. As for the statement that estrogen rates are higher in Western males, then Asian males, it's because 1)they don't eat nearly as much soy food as Americans, 2)the soy food they do eat is properly prepared, 3)they don't drink the pastuerized milk that Americans do.

Solution?
Either drink raw certified milk, which people who are lactose intolerant CAN drink because there are many beneficial enzymes in milk that digest lactose, and kill bad bacteria, or
Lobby for soy products that are traditionally made to become standard, instead of overly processed junk foods.

If you're interested in learning more about milk go to the Weston Price foundations website. If you are a vegetarian, this site still has something for you. Don't just dismiss it because it says that meat is good for you, and that is something you don't agree with. Also, a book by Kaayla Daniel, Phd., CCN, The Whole Soy Story, is a very good book, which gives both sides of the story very well.
www.westonaprice.org/index.html

Not-a-hunter

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:57 pm 
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I don't think that drinking milk, and eating meat is going to cause prostate cancer, because for milleinia, hunters and gatherers ate meat, and they didn't die of prostate cancer. If they did, there wouldn't be a human race.


Our ancestors died when they were 30-40 years, long before they could have prostate cancer.

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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:02 pm 
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amanda, the masai people probably need that many calories for all the work they do. i'm sure they are waay more active than many americans. i drank raw milk for a time, and i gained about 10 lbs. i also exercise on a regular basis, but nowhere near as much as an african, i am sure.

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