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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:44 am 
Soy milk, is it really good for you?
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I have been drinking soy milk for the past eight months. Recently a friend tells me its not as good as what I think it may be. I would really like to know if there is strength to this suggestion. Could someone be so kind to give a new soy drinker reliable information on the pros and cons of soy milk?



Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:35 pm 
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Unless you are allergic to it, soymilk is very healthy. Maybe your friend got one of those spam emails, which only purpose is to create panic.

Soymilk will give you following advantages:
- less risks for heart diseases
- plant proteins instead of animal protein will help prevent osteoporosis
- isoflavones have a lot of health promoting benefits
- if you make it yourself it's very cheap
- does not contain lactose


Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:23 am 
Soya products are good for you
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icon_biggrin.gif Soya products have been very good for me in the past but I have had difficulty in getting them as I live in a village. Since I have stopped using them I seem to have had everything going including a bad bout of arthritis in my feet. I never had flu badly since using the products and feel that I will go back on them as I don't like milk anyway. Tofu and quorn products are wonderful.
So don't take any notice of the critics, if you feel healthier and happier carry on using Soya. I am going back to it for good.


Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:20 am 
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Lucyleighton wrote:
icon_biggrin.gif Tofu and quorn products are wonderful.

What exactly is Quorn and is it GM produce? icon_rolleyes.gif


Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:28 am 
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it affected my thyroid gland and now I have hypothiroydism, I now drink almond milk.


Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:54 am 
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is almond milk expensive?


Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:11 pm 
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carbonara wrote:
is almond milk expensive?

I haven't seen any almond milk in shops (in Europe) so I don't know if it is expensive. But you can easily make it at home by mixing almonds (without peel) in water. I usually use 80 g almonds per liter water. It makes a creamy and nice tasting beverage. Don't use bitter almonds, they are toxic.


Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:51 pm 
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I just received an email regarding soya and that it is unhealthy for your body. I am going to display this email; you can take it from there; I LOOKED THIS UP ON SPAM EMAIL, AND DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING IN THERE THAT SAYS THIS WAS A SPAM. HERE IS ANOTHER WEBSITE I LOOKED UP:

Soya - It may be harming you or someone you know - Please read and pass on. All Males-PLEASE pass this info to ALL your female friends...
It may save their lives!

Females keep passing it to everyone you know. Something to take note of. This is my true story, nothing altered.

These are facts, as they relate to my experience, my opinions based on what I have read and felt. I am relating them to warn other young health-conscious women who are unwittingly harming themselves.
In 1989 I graduated from high school in Texasand couldn't wait to hit the big college city. One of the changes I wanted to make was to eat healthier.

Once I moved to health-conscious Austin, Texas, I began to fortify my body with the best and healthiest foods I could find. Tofu was the main ingredient in every healthy dish and I bought Soya milk almost every day and used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or just to drink for a quick snack. I bought Soya muffins, miso soup with tofu, soybeans, soybean, sprouts, etc. All the literature in all the health and fitness magazines said that Soya protected you against everything from heart disease to breast cancer. It was the magical isoflavones, the estrogen-like hormones that all worked to help you stay young and healthy. I looked great, I was working out all the time, but my menstrual cycle was off.

At 20, I started taking birth control pills to regulate my menstrual cycle.
In addition to this I began to suffer from painful periods. I began to get puffy, it was as though I was losing my muscle tone. I began to suffer from depression and getting hot flashes. I mistook all this for PMS since my periods were irregular.

By the time I was 25, my periods were so bad, I couldn't walk. The birth control pills never made them regular or less painful so I decided to stop taking them. I went on like this for another two years until I realized my pain wasn't normal. At 27, my gynaecologist found two cysts in my uterus.

Both were the size of tennis balls . I went through surgery to have them removed and thank God they were benign. The gynaecologist told me to go back on birth control pills. I didn't. In 1998, he discovered a lump in my breast. Again, I went through surgery and again it was benign. In November 2000 my glands swelled up and my gums became inflamed.

Thinking I had a tooth infection I went to the dentist who told me that teeth were not the problem. After a dose of antibiotics the swelling still did not go down. At this point I could feel a tiny nodule on the right side of my neck. I told my mother I had thyroid trouble. She thought I was being silly. No one in the family suffered from thyroid trouble. Going on a hunch I saw a specialist who diagnosed me with Papillary Thyroid Carcinoma.

After a series of tests he told me it w as cancer. My fianc? and I sat stunned. We were not prepared and I was so scared. We scheduled surgery right away. The specialist told us that it would only be after was cancer. They found a tumour at my right lobe composed of irregular cells and another smaller tumor growing on the left, so the entire thyroid was removed.

They told me that after undergoing radioactive iodine I would be safe and assured me that I could live a long life. After treatment I began to search for the cause of all these problems. I never once thought it could be all the Soya I had consumed for nearly ten years. After all, Soya is healthy.

I came upon a web page that linked thyroid problems to Soya intake and the conspiracy of Soya marketed as a health food when in fact it is only a toxic by-product of th e vegetable oil industry. This was insane, afterall, the health and fitness magazines had said nothing about Soya being harmful.

I visited a herbalist who was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in 1985. She informed me that Soya was the culprit. She had a hysterectomy due to cysts and other uterine problems. A few months later another acquaintance who had consumed Soya came down with thyroid cancer.

A girl in England I met through the Internet in a thyroid cancer forum had just undergone surgery and she was only 19. What was going on????

Breast cancer is linked to estrogen. What mimics estrogen in the femalebody, SOYA! But I never suspected Soya because until now I never once found a single article that stated Soya could be dangerous.

Women who took Soya prior to t hyroid problems will continue to take it after if they are not aware of what Soya actually does, what it contains women with thyroid cancer often develop breast cancer later.

My co-worker is big into Soya and I see her losing hair and gaining weight despite a walking workout during her break and after work, and apples and oranges for lunch. She just had cysts removed from her uterus too. I warned her to stay off Soya. I referred her to websites but until it is on the evening news on all four networks, women will suffer. Since my thyroidectomy two years ago I have not touched Soya.

Dear readers, please use my story in any way you can. There are so many young girls who are consuming Soya because they think they are taking care of themselves, and women taking Soya because they want to be healthy.

It is so unfair that the information about the dangers of Soya isn't more widely circulated. It is sad. There are many out there who feel this way and it is a terrible blow when you realize you are not as was wrong.


Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:01 am 
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uh yeah thats what people call spam....


Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:27 pm 
Soya milk, is it really good for you?
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I disagree that the negative message that was posted, is spam. There is no apparent benefit to be gained by having posted the message.

The question is: Is Soya milk really healthy (scientifically healthy), or is it healthy based solely on the manufacturers' statements? There seems to be a sufficient number of people commenting on issues relating to the thyroid to just ignore the published email as spam!!!.


Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:21 pm 
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There is a recent literature review published in Thyroid (2006 March) entitled "Effects of soy protein and soybean isoflavones on thyroid function in healthy adults and hypothyroid patients: a review of the relevant literature."

Soy foods are a traditional staple of Asian diets but because of their purported health benefits they have become popular in recent years among non-Asians, especially postmenopausal women. There are many bioactive soybean components that may contribute to the hypothesized health benefits of soy but most attention has focused on the isoflavones, which have both hormonal and nonhormonal properties. However, despite the possible benefits concerns have been expressed that soy may be contraindicated for some subsets of the population. One concern is that soy may adversely affect thyroid function and interfere with the absorption of synthetic thyroid hormone. Thus, the purpose of this review is to evaluate the relevant literature and provide the clinician guidance for advising their patients about the effects of soy on thyroid function. In total, 14 trials (thyroid function was not the primary health outcome in any trial) were identified in which the effects of soy foods or isoflavones on at least one measure of thyroid function was assessed in presumably healthy subjects; eight involved women only, four involved men, and two both men and women. With only one exception, either no effects or only very modest changes were noted in these trials. Thus, collectively the findings provide little evidence that in euthyroid, iodine-replete individuals, soy foods, or isoflavones adversely affect thyroid function. In contrast, some evidence suggests that soy foods, by inhibiting absorption, may increase the dose of thyroid hormone required by hypothyroid patients. However, hypothyroid adults need not avoid soy foods. In addition, there remains a theoretical concern based on in vitro and animal data that in individuals with compromised thyroid function and/or whose iodine intake is marginal soy foods may increase risk of developing clinical hypothyroidism. Therefore, it is important for soy food consumers to make sure their intake of iodine is adequate.


Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:07 pm 
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I received that email and ignored it as spam. Now I have been diagnosed as having hypothyroidism as a result of my soy milk intake. ( I changed from dairy 6 years ago, as I was lactose intolerant). Now I just don't take any form of milk, as the cow's milk did not have any far-reaching effects like the soy milk. I will now have to take hormones probably for the rest of my life to correct the damage done y soy milk.


Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:15 am 
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This is very interesting! Did your MP confirm that your hypothyroidism was caused by the consumption of soy milk? The fact that you developed hypothyroidism and that you consume soy milk does not necessary mean that they are associated. According to the American Thyroid Association "soy does not cause hypothyroidism, but it does interfere with the body's ability to absorb thyroid replacement therapy". In practice, this means that thyroid medication and soy products must not be taken at the same time.


Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:57 pm 
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Joy wrote:
I have been drinking soy milk for the past eight months. Recently a friend tells me its not as good as what I think it may be. I would really like to know if there is strength to this suggestion. Could someone be so kind to give a new soy drinker reliable information on the pros and cons of soy milk?

Soy products are actually not so great, they have a lot of side effects that toxic in the long run. They actually interfere with protein digestion and calcium absorption and leave a lot in the digestive tract.


Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:04 pm 
Raw Dairy is great
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A lot of people use soy products because they think dairy is bad. It's generally not an allery to dairy but an inability to digest it properly because of accumulated debri in the colon. Soy actually complicates this. It interferes with protein digestion and has numerous other dangerous side effecsts if used over a long term. Better to clean out, incorporate enzymes and find sources of raw dairy.


Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:54 pm 
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I am 40 years old.I was drinking alot of soy milk for the past few months. I was experienceing alot of water retention prior to my period that I had not had before drinking the soy milk. Also I started having a break out of bumps on my back. Now the top of my right foot is swollen and I cannot wear my shoe. it has been sore and swollen for three days . I did not injure it that I know of. I am going to stop drinking the soy milk even though I liked it .


Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:24 am 
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Hi, I have been consuming soya milk and soya proteins, when I have drank protein drinks even though it wasn't high in calories I did notice I put on weight and it wasn't because I over ate. I stopped the protein drinks and my weight went back to normal but still have soya milk on cereal, after reading this forum I think I'm going to change to almond milk it's just as easy to make in the soya quick machine.


Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:24 am 
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Thank you happy4vr for taking the time to share your experiences, pass on helpful info and to warn readers about the negatives of soya. Best wishes to you.


Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:20 am 
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This is not the experience of happy4vr, but a copied chain letter telling an anonymous woman's horror story. This text can be found all over the internet with the request to sent it to everyone... Spam!


Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:57 pm 
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Unfermented soy products are not a good idea for those who are hypothyroid or have it in their family history. Fermented soy products are a safe and valuable addition to any food program.

Cathy C.

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